FYF - Year 3

[~ < o > ~]

This year, we're gonna flip the script a little and do an auction draft.

If you don't know what an auction draft is, you bid for people to fill your rosters, and the highest bidder wins the player.

It's quite a bit different then the regular selection process, but I kinda dig it.

Anyway, all people who were involved in FYF last year are eligible to return, and if there's any new folks wanting to try it out, respond here.

As of right now, our draft will be on Saturday, September 5th, at Midnight Eastern. That means one minute after Friday ends. If that's a problem, let me know, see if we can't work out a better time for everybody.

All people from last year have two weeks to respond before I go looking for replacements.

Also, keeper rules are still in play, so remember to select your four keepers [if you want to keep four people] by August 26th at 5 pm Eastern.

[Jeff Fox]

I'm still in. So, do we need to pay our keepers as well? Also how much money do we get for the auction? And how much do free agents cost?



I'm new to the auction format as you can probably guess.

[~ < o > ~]

I'm still in. So, do we need to pay our keepers as well? Also how much money do we get for the auction? And how much do free agents cost?



I'm new to the auction format as you can probably guess.

Honestly, I have absolutely no idea as far as how keepers are used in auction drafts.

I'm also not entirely sure how much money we will be given, but I did a few mock auction drafts and they were always 200 dollars, but those were regular leagues, and FYF has quite a bit more roster slots then those.

People cost based on how much other people want them. If everybody wastes their money in the first two or three rounds, you can probably get some amazing deals in the fourth for low money.

[Jeff Fox]

Honestly, I have absolutely no idea as far as how keepers are used in auction drafts.

I'm also not entirely sure how much money we will be given, but I did a few mock auction drafts and they were always 200 dollars, but those were regular leagues, and FYF has quite a bit more roster slots then those.

People cost based on how much other people want them. If everybody wastes their money in the first two or three rounds, you can probably get some amazing deals in the fourth for low money.

Good to know, because my keepers mean I'm out till the fifth round.

[xchriscannonx]

I'd love to partake in this if you have a spot open.

jdubb031@juno.com

[~ < o > ~]

I've got one spot, because Doug decided he didn't want to finish the season last year.

After that, I believe we're full unless we expand the league to 14 teams. Therefore, I'd need two new teams after Cannon to sign up before that would happen.

[~ < o > ~]

As far as keeper values go, I figured out that I can personally set how much they cost each team.

They have them currently set at 1$ each, which is bullshit, so I'll change that to a number more reflective of what they should cost. More then likely, I'll check what their usually going for in mock drafts, and deduct ten bucks or whatever.

So, if LaDainian Tomlinson is usually going for 55$ in ESPN mock drafts, I'll price him at 45$ for a keeper.

But yeah, everbody gets 200$ to fill out their team as they see fit, and I'd say the highest priced guy is usually Adrian Peterson at around 65$- 70$.

[~ < o > ~]

One more thing, if anybody has any rule changes/scoring changes they'd like to see implemented, bring them up now.

The system has been the same for two years, and looks to be the same as before this year, but I'll hear any complaints/ideas anybody has.

Generally, if you want to win the close games in FYF, you need your Team Defense to score positive, your HC to score positive, and to preferably have QBs as your Offensive Utility Players, because QBs tend to score points the most consistently in FYF.

[BigPimpin]

I'm still in

[bw301]

You know I'm not going anywhere. I have a championship to defend.

[~ < o > ~]

Last call for anybody looking to join up.

KEEPERS ARE DUE IN ONE WEEK. YOU HAVE ONE WEEK. GO DO YOUR KEEPERS ASAP. THX.

[Adrien Cochrane]

I got my four keepers in.

[~ < o > ~]

Other people need to follow suit, four days and ticking.

[bw301]

I'm still a bit confused on the keeper's costs. When you look at the overview, they show up as a dollar a piece.

[~ < o > ~]

I edited in the prices for keepers, based on how valuable I thought they were with a little bit of a discount thrown in.

[Jeff Fox]

I'll go check my keepers again, since I set them before they had prices.

Edit: You'll have to go back and look at my keepers again Chris because I dropped McNabb as 25 dollars is far too rich for my blood.

I tentatively switched to Ray Rice but if you can give me keeper prices on TO, Darren Sproles and Desean Jackson as well that would be awesome that way I can decide who is the bets fit for my team by dollar value.

[~ < o > ~]

I'd put TO and Desean at 15, and Sproles would be at 5.

QBs are gonna be worth some dollars because they're the highest scoring players in the league, and Donovan is easily a top ten choice as far as QBs go. 25 for him is actually a good deal. In most auction drafts, you can't grab anybody for less then 25 in the first three rounds, and you've got to believe McNabb is an early third rounder at worst.

[Adrien Cochrane]

I don't see how much my keepers are costing me...

EDIT: Found it...

JESUS! BREES IS COSTING ME $45!!!

[~ < o > ~]

I'll probably check it out and revise again later, it's kinda hard predicting values based on how people are going in standard ten man drafts, when our league is hardly standard with twelve teams. In FYF, QBs are by far the most important position to draft, but they're not so important in standard leagues, and since there's going to be some people who miss our draft, that means the cpu will have these guys jack the prices up on WRs and RBs, but not necessarily on QBs.

Basically, to give you an idea, Adrian Peterson will cost around 60-70, because the guys who miss the draft will jack the price up on him. After the seventh round, almost everybody will be broke, and it'll turn into basically a regular draft with everybody grabbing people for a dollar.

I honestly don't know what the values of anybody will be, I just assume that the CPU will jack the prices up on stud WRs past what they are worth because they don't take our scoring sytem into play, and QBs may be a steal because the CPU won't value them very highly when they should be the guys going for 40-60.

I just don't want to give the guys doing keepers to great of a deal, because if they can grab studs for ten bucks each, they're at a huge advantage over people who don't do keepers, I'm just not entirely sure how to value some of these guys.

[~ < o > ~]

I don't see how much my keepers are costing me...

EDIT: Found it...

JESUS! BREES IS COSTING ME $45!!!

Brees is the best QB in the draft, and QBs score more points then everybody else. If ESPN could put together a mock auction draft with our league settings, Brees would be snagged for 60+ easily.

[~ < o > ~]

But yeah, if you've never done a mock auction league draft, you really should do one. You'll realize that 200$ is only gonna last you so long, and then you'll start grabbing people for a dollar each. Basically, it'll only be an auction draft for the first six or seven rounds, then nobody will have money left. You can get involved with the high demand guys, or wait till round five and start snagging deals while people are out of money, it's just a strategy thing.

You can decide to buy the first three or four picks of the draft and then go dollar each for the rest of the way, or you can ignore all the high demand guys and steal all the 5-10 dollar guys. If you can save 30 bucks up past round seven, you can basically grab 15 guys at 2$ each if everyone is broke, because if everybody is, nobody can take anybody from you if you can raise the price.

[Paul]

I have no idea who the fuck to keep on my roster.

[Dave W]

I'm still in. Looks like I missed Keepers. If I can still withold Keepers let me know. I would like to keep MoJo Drew and Brady

[xchriscannonx]

I missed on my keepers as well. Shit!

[~ < o > ~]

If you want keepers I can add them in i believe, just let me know immediately.

[xchriscannonx]

Vintage Cannon keepers- Tony Gonzalez, Heath Miller, Calvin Johnson, Michael Turner

[BigPimpin]

Due to work, I cannot make this draft. Is there any auto-draft mechanism I will need to set up prior to the draft?

[Jason]

Gip I need you to set my keepers:

Steven Jackson, Tony Romo, Pierre Thomas.

That's it.

[Dave W]

I'm still in. Looks like I missed Keepers. If I can still withold Keepers let me know. I would like to keep MoJo Drew and Brady

Yep, that would appease my keepers need

[~ < o > ~]

Due to work, I cannot make this draft. Is there any auto-draft mechanism I will need to set up prior to the draft?

I'm sure there's something but I don't know any more about it then you do.

[James]

Don't mean to cross over into your thread Gip, but I need you to activate your invite to Geekball.

[~ < o > ~]

Done.

[~ < o > ~]

Just a reminder:

The draft is on midnight eastern Saturday, which is one minute after Friday ends, which means it's on Friday night for the alcoholics here.

So, the draft is:

Saturday midnight eastern
Friday eleven pm central
Friday ten pm mountain
Friday nine pm pacific

If you do not show up, I honestly have no idea what your team will become as it's an auction draft, not a pick'em draft, and I don't know how the computer will go about filling the rosters of those who don't show. Everybody gets a chance to nominate players to bid on, but highest bidder wins, and I don't know how low or how high the computer will go.

9 of 12 teams have keepers, with Jimbo, James, and Cooke not having any. If anything needs to be altered let me know as soon as possible, thanks.

[BigPimpin]

FML.

I'll try to go through and set pricing, but I have to be at work at 8 EST Saturday so the draft isn't an option. At least I have one receiver. :)

[Paul]

I'm not sure I'll be able to make the draft. So if I end up with a shitty team (or no players at all, since it's bidding), I have a built in excuse.

[Blade]

I'll hang on to Chris Johnson, Andre Johnson, and Greg Jennings

[~ < o > ~]

I forgot about my own god damn draft. I need to quit talking to girls.

[BigPimpin]

For those that were in the draft, did the auto-auctioner make any particularly stupid moves in your eyes?

[Jeff Fox]

Well here's the draft results.

Vintage Cannon VC
QB Ben Roethlisberger 8
RB Michael Turner 35
RB DeAngelo Williams 52
WR Calvin Johnson 15
WR Bobby Engram 2
TE Tony Gonzalez 15
OP Heath Miller 4
OP Jamal Lewis 10
DP Shawne Merriman 1
DP Julius Peppers 1
DP Lance Briggs 1
DP Chris Gamble 1
D/ST Cowboys D/ST 1
K Jason Elam 1
HC Ravens Coach 1
BE Dallas Clark 14
BE Chris Wells 8
BE Ricky Williams 1
BE Chad Pennington 1
BE Michael Jenkins 1
BE Correll Buckhalter 1
BE Mike Sims-Walker 1
BE Hakeem Nicks 1
BE Keenan Burton 1
Total: 177
Remaining: 23

Michael Turner Overdrive
QB Tony Romo 30
RB Steven Jackson 30
RB Pierre Thomas 20
WR Anquan Boldin 21
WR Anthony Gonzalez 8
TE Tony Scheffler 1
OP Kevin Smith 25
OP Willie Parker 18
DP E.J. Henderson 1
DP Justin Tuck 1
DP Aaron Kampman 1
DP Bart Scott 1
D/ST Redskins D/ST 1
K Robbie Gould 1
HC Falcons Coach 1
BE Matt Cassel 10
BE Ahmad Bradshaw 11
BE Mark Bradley 1
BE Jeremy Maclin 1
BE Deion Branch 1
BE Devery Henderson 1
BE Brandon Jackson 1
BE Vernon Davis 1
BE Martellus Bennett 1
Total: 188
Remaining: 12

Team Cooke
QB Jason Campbell 1
RB Chris Johnson 30
RB Knowshon Moreno 11
WR Andre Johnson 15
WR Greg Jennings 15
TE Kellen Winslow 3
OP Bernard Berrian 12
OP Lee Evans 12
DP Gibril Wilson 1
DP D.J. Williams 1
DP London Fletcher 1
DP Bradie James 1
D/ST Dolphins D/ST 1
K Mason Crosby 1
HC Colts Coach 1
BE Donald Brown 6
BE Torry Holt 7
BE Justin Gage 1
BE Shonn Greene 1
BE Justin Fargas 1
BE Brandon Pettigrew 1
BE Dominic Rhodes 1
BE Daunte Culpepper 1
BE Marcedes Lewis 1
Total: 126
Remaining: 74

Sardonic's Sardines
QB Trent Edwards 1
RB Thomas Jones 19
RB Reggie Bush 12
WR Terrell Owens 21
WR Vincent Jackson 13
TE Bo Scaife 1
OP Eddie Royal 9
OP Steve Breaston 4
DP D'Qwell Jackson 1
DP Jared Allen 1
DP Bernard Pollard 1
DP Yeremiah Bell 1
D/ST Bears D/ST 1
K Kris Brown 1
HC Titans Coach 1
BE Josh Morgan 3
BE Domenik Hixon 3
BE Julius Jones 1
BE Leon Washington 1
BE Michael Bush 1
BE JaMarcus Russell 1
BE Maurice Morris 1
BE Kerry Collins 1
BE Joe Nedney 1
Total: 100
Remaining: 100

Team Wolfe
QB Tom Brady 30
RB Maurice Jones-Drew 25
RB Adrian Peterson 67
WR Kevin Walter 9
WR Derrick Mason 3
TE Greg Olsen 6
OP Fred Taylor 8
OP Le'Ron McClain 5
DP DeMarcus Ware 4
DP Ray Lewis 2
DP Ike Taylor 1
DP Nic Harris 1
D/ST Titans D/ST 5
K Stephen Gostkowski 1
HC Steelers Coach 1
BE Robert Meachem 4
BE Chester Taylor 4
BE Dustin Keller 2
BE Joe Flacco 1
BE Rashard Mendenhall 2
BE Muhsin Muhammad 2
BE Asher Allen 1
BE Mark Sanchez 1
BE Steve Smith 1
Total: 186
Remaining: 14

Oshkosh Chieftans
QB Brett Favre 2
RB Marion Barber 28
RB Steve Slaton 38
WR Brandon Marshall 18
WR Roy E. Williams 17
TE John Carlson 1
OP Chad Ochocinco 13
OP Devin Hester 4
DP Oshiomogho Atogwe 1
DP Antoine Winfield 1
DP James Farrior 1
DP Roman Harper 1
D/ST Packers D/ST 1
K Neil Rackers 1
HC Panthers Coach 1
BE Donnie Avery 1
BE Jerious Norwood 1
BE Sidney Rice 1
BE Jamaal Charles 1
BE Kevin Faulk 1
BE Brian Leonard 1
BE Marc Bulger 1
BE Donald Lee 1
BE Benjamin Watson 1
Total: 137
Remaining: 63

Roxborough Rampage
QB Donovan McNabb 20
RB Matt Forte 30
RB Frank Gore 42
WR Larry Fitzgerald 15
WR DeSean Jackson 11
TE Jeremy Shockey 5
OP Larry Johnson 17
OP Ray Rice 12
DP Troy Polamalu 3
DP Ed Reed 3
DP Trent Cole 1
DP Jonathan Vilma 2
D/ST Steelers D/ST 8
K Rob Bironas 1
HC Cardinals Coach 1
BE Jay Cutler 9
BE Ravens D/ST 4
BE David Garrard 1
BE Percy Harvin 1
BE Brent Celek 1
BE David Akers 2
BE Mario Williams 1
BE Terrell Suggs 1
BE Peyton Hillis 1
Total: 192
Remaining: 8

Harbor Drive Brett Favre's
QB Carson Palmer 10
RB Ronnie Brown 22
RB Darren McFadden 17
WR Hines Ward 12
WR Antonio Bryant 10
TE Chris Cooley 8
OP Kurt Warner 25
OP Aaron Rodgers 30
DP Karlos Dansby 1
DP Kirk Morrison 1
DP Brandon Meriweather 1
DP Adrian Wilson 1
D/ST Jets D/ST 1
K John Kasay 1
HC Eagles Coach 1
BE Joseph Addai 18
BE LenDale White 15
BE Jonathan Stewart 13
BE Darren Sproles 8
BE Kevin Curtis 1
BE Nate Burleson 1
BE Nate Washington 1
BE Visanthe Shiancoe 1
BE Earl Bennett 1
Total: 200
Remaining: 0

West Haven Potato Peelers
QB Jake Delhomme 10
RB Brian Westbrook 26
RB Ryan Grant 20
WR Steve Smith 10
WR Roddy White 23
TE Zach Miller 2
OP Matt Ryan 20
OP Michael Crabtree 2
DP Osi Umenyiora 2
DP Brian Urlacher 1
DP James Harrison 6
DP Barrett Ruud 1
D/ST Giants D/ST 6
K Nate Kaeding 1
HC Patriots Coach 3
BE Santonio Holmes 9
BE Jerricho Cotchery 9
BE Earnest Graham 6
BE Felix Jones 6
BE Vikings D/ST 3
BE Eagles D/ST 2
BE LeSean McCoy 4
BE Matt Hasselbeck 2
BE Sammy Morris 1
Total: 175
Remaining: 25

Team Retro
QB Kyle Orton 5
RB LaDainian Tomlinson 35
RB Fred Jackson 3
WR Randy Moss 15
WR Reggie Wayne 25
TE Antonio Gates 15
OP Wes Welker 18
OP Braylon Edwards 17
DP Jon Beason 1
DP DeMeco Ryans 1
DP Eric Weddle 1
DP David Harris 1
D/ST Panthers D/ST 1
K Ryan Longwell 1
HC Giants Coach 1
BE Matt Schaub 13
BE Donald Driver 7
BE Eli Manning 5
BE Laveranues Coles 7
BE Glen Coffee 1
BE Laurence Maroney 1
BE Cadillac Williams 1
BE Ladell Betts 1
BE Anthony Fasano 1
Total: 177
Remaining: 23

Hillside Nighthawks
QB Peyton Manning 28
RB Derrick Ward 16
RB Cedric Benson 9
WR Marques Colston 10
WR Ted Ginn Jr. 3
TE Jason Witten 14
OP Owen Daniels 8
OP Willis McGahee 2
DP Erik Coleman 1
DP Charles Tillman 1
DP Cedric Griffin 1
DP Chad Greenway 1
D/ST Patriots D/ST 1
K Nick Folk 1
HC Chargers Coach 1
BE Tim Hightower 2
BE Chris Chambers 1
BE Joey Galloway 1
BE Shaun Hill 1
BE Samkon Gado 1
BE Tashard Choice 1
BE Mark Clayton 1
BE Kenny Britt 1
BE Brady Quinn 1
Total: 107
Remaining: 93

Team Adrien
QB Drew Brees 35
RB Clinton Portis 25
RB Brandon Jacobs 39
WR Santana Moss 8
WR Lance Moore 3
TE Kevin Boss 1
OP Marshawn Lynch 19
OP Dwayne Bowe 18
DP Patrick Willis 1
DP Asante Samuel 1
DP Jerod Mayo 1
DP Darren Sharper 1
D/ST Chargers D/ST 1
K John Carney 1
HC Saints Coach 1
BE T.J. Houshmandzadeh 16
BE Philip Rivers 20
BE Michael Vick 1
BE Patrick Crayton 3
BE Isaac Bruce 1
BE Vince Wilfork 1
BE Vernon Gholston 1
BE Mewelde Moore 1
BE Champ Bailey 1
Total: 200
Remaining: 0


As for bad move on the autopick, well robojimbo ended the draft with 100 dollars left to spend. Which is kinda funny. Robojames spent 18 on Brandon Marshall which is a bit pricey in my opinion for someone on his own teams shit list. I'm sure there are a couple other but they are more 1 or 2 dollar things.

[Adrien Cochrane]

There was FOUR of us in there.

[bw301]

Auto-Gip spent the majority of his cash drafting 6 mediocre running backs. Jimbo's team...just looks painful.

[JimSardonic]

My team is teh awesum.

Cutler for MVP?

[~ < o > ~]

For those that were there, did you think the auction draft is something worth doing next year, or would you rather revert back to pick em.

[Adrien Cochrane]

I'd go for the snake again next year.

[Jeff Fox]

Auction draft rocked. It took a bit of strategy as opposed to the normal pick the best person who is available drafts.

[bw301]

For those that were there, did you think the auction draft is something worth doing next year, or would you rather revert back to pick em.

The auction seems like it would make for a really interesting draft, but only if more than 4 people showed. It's no fun bidding against a crew of computer controlled teams that bid the ESPN standard player value regardless of roster situation or a player's current circumstances(Brandon Marshall getting drafted for the same price Friday night as he was before his suspension.) Auction drafts are only appealing if there's legit strategies being employed by all.

The fact that all teams still only start with $200 despite our larger rosters is something I find interesting. It could make for a really competitive draft where everyone finds their own way to budget their cash. But again, it only works if more than 4 people show.

[bw301]

My team is teh awesum.

Cutler for MVP?

Jimbo...you don't have Cutler in FYF...

[Jeff Fox]

Jimbo...you don't have Cutler in FYF...

Shush! I was hoping Jimbo's wish for Cutler to be MVP would come true...

[JimSardonic]

Well, I figured Edwards/Collins was too much of a stretch, so I went with the next worst QB I could think of :)

[xchriscannonx]

Holy shit. Thank god I didn't make the draft. I seriously doubt I could put a better team together than my autopicks did. HAHA.

[Jeff Fox]

Fucking Bironas I really expected him to hit at least three field goals against the Steelers.

[Adrien Cochrane]

He could've made three...had he made the first and not have the second blocked.

[Jeff Fox]

Yeah I know, but fate decide to fuck me like a Mexican transvestite for a 2 dollar bill.

[bw301]

If it makes you feel any better, I had a 28 point Santonio Holmes sitting on my bench.

[Adrien Cochrane]

Feel sorry for James. He had to face me on the day Brees tore up the Lions.

[bw301]

With 7 minutes to go in the 3rd quarter of the week's last game, the only 3 teams of mine that I've checked(I'm running 12) are all projected to tie their opponents. I've never seen that before.

[Paul]

Nice start for my team. Whoever Vintage Cannon VC is got raped by Team Retro~!

[bw301]

I kind of feel bad about the trade I pulled off with Jimbo now. I sent him Earnest Graham and Brian Urlacher for Leon Washington. Graham had 1 carry and 1 yard on Sunday while Urlacher broke his wrist and is out for the season.

[Paul]

My team defense is killing me. Last week it was a -15, but my big offensive week offset that. This week it was a -20, and my offense couldn't bail it out.

[BigPimpin]

All I have to say is that I'm amazed that my team is 2-0 right now.

[Jeff Fox]

Hey Gip is there anyway to fix the fact that I accidentally dropped Percy Harvin?

[Paul]

Second week in a row I got fucked over because of that Team Defense/Special Teams category.

This week, my opponent's got 55 points.

Jesus.

[Jeff Fox]

Well yeah, defenses are worth money points. Which is why I have three of them.

[bw301]

This season is starting out exactly the same way as last season for me. And we all know how I finished last year.

[Paul]

LaDainian Tomlinson sucking it up large is killing my team.

[bw301]

Sadly, my run is over. I'm officially mathmatically eliminated from the playoffs. Good old Matt Ryan turf toe and Brian Westbrook concussions and Jake Delhomme/Steve Smith ruining their career....on top of Leon Washington and the entire Giants defense.

[Jeff Fox]

It was a great year guys, and only like six months till it starts again!

[bw301]

I plan on being back with a vengance.

Congrats to Chris King for beating me in the championship game of my own league. **shakes fist** The Shockwave Fantasy Football League's trophies have officially been handed out. Log in to see if you took home any.

After 3 years of mediocrity, I finally took home my first Geekball championship. As long as James runs the league, I'll be joining it.

My final fantasy football stats:

12 Leagues
95 wins
55 losses
9 playoff teams
4 championships
3rd place average finish